Is Klout On The Way Out?

 

This morning, Klout launched a new algorithm, which has affected the scoring of Social Media users “Online Success Scores.” This change has caused a dramatic decrease in the Klout scores of most users and all platforms on Social Media are ablaze with discordance, confusion and anger in regard to Klout.  
 
Klout scores have dropped on average, ten points
 
Joe Fernandez, the CEO of Klout has been talking about the induction of this new algorithm for some time and in recent interviews mentioned that some users “may” see a drop of their score and some will observe little or no changes upon the adaptation.
 
In fact, the changes are significant and scores have dropped dramatically for most users
 
In reviewing the impact that the introduction this new algorithm has had on the scores of many users, it can be clearly observed that the major impact caused by this new algorithm can be seen in a users Amplification score and Network Influence.  In addition, significant drops / increase have occurred in the majority of users True Reach scores as well.
 
Klout, we have questions and we want answers
 
My question to Klout is, “What specifically is causing such a dramatic change in scores and what is this new algorithm really measuring?”
 
Let me compare my old Klout Score with the new ones received today:
 
True Reach use:         5K now 19K
Network influence:       81 now 29
Amplification Score:    68  now 22
Klout Score Total:  79.36  now 63.91
 
Beyond the many concerns and questions in regard to  “why” my score and the scores of so many have decreased significantly, what I find most disturbing is the change in the “who I influence” measurement.  According to Klout for example, I am now defined as an influencer of a person with whom I only communicate via Facebook messages on the Facebook network. How is this possible and when will it be explained?
 
Are we back to square one with privacy issue Klout?

Tell Us…

Where is the promised transparency?

 

Klout states that the new algorithm was introduced in order to provide users with transparency.  In fact, Joe Fernandez has said  transparency is important and has assured users that Klout is now providing transparency to all users.  It is surprising however, that Klout is not answering most comments and certainly not giving users many details.  I see absolutely no transparency in how Klout is operating as of yet. None at all.

 

Joe Fernandez, how can we be comfortable with Klout?

 

In an interview with TNW, Joe Fernandez stated, “Being ‘the standard’ means people need to feel comfortable and have enough insight.”  He states further, “Score Insight has been in development for five months. Google doesn’t tell you how its algorithm works.”

 

Klout’s absurd answer to why they do not share the algorithm or methodology for how they gather users scores sounds like the defensive “If they can do it, I can to, even though it’s wrong” game played by young children.

 

Regardless of the spin Klout adds to interviews and evasive answers layered with excuses, note this: If we compare Google to Klout in regard to not going public with algorithms and methodology, it should also be stated that that Google does NOT say they are “The Standard for Ranking”, where Klout clearly states they are “The Standard For Influence.”

 

Without transparency and documentation of how Klout obtains their data to define users scores, the “standard” cannot be seen as a “standard” at all.

 

To use the word “Standard” to define anything, such positioning must be supported with studies and documentation to support and give creedence.  Clearly Klout has not provided such and in calling themselves a “Standard” without provided documentation is simply not appropriate. We as users, must question how we have been manipulated to believe this company is doing anything right, ethical or legitimate at all.

 

The Science Team at Klout does not appear to be Scientific

 

In my opinion and the opinion of many, Klout is a game of online manipulation and popularity. There is no indication that Klout measures influence.  However, it is clearly seen that the once respected Klout score is now measuring popularity, supports spam and gathering information to enhance their Klout Perks program.

 

Many of us would like to know how spam accounts are receiving  high Klout scores.  Take for example the following capture of an account that is known in Social Media circles to have a mission of spamming with little content or engagement.

 

 

 

 

It appears that such behavior is considered influential and is rewarded by the new algorithm for doing so. The message heard by this is spamming, if done well, will earn you an increased Klout score.  In fact, the self proclaimed (with NO credible data to support the claim)  “Standard for Influence” company called Klout may even name you as the “Thought Leader” of the pack.
 
It appears that Klout scores are affected not by a mere change in the algorithm alone, but by  manipulation in direct relation to their marketing program and/or large scale errors in their statistical programs.
 
Oddly, Megan Berry of Klout tells us that her 11 point drop “Feels Right”.
 
Sorry Klout, this new change and lack of transparency does not feel right at all.   It feels unprofessional, unethical and completely manipulative.  We are not your puppets and we are not your fans. We, the  users of Social Media are professionals whom you are assigning inaccurate scores to without our permission or consent and with little or no  regard to how doing so affects our businesses and brands.
 
It is time for you to up your accountability and responsibility.  Stop manipulating us with popularity K votes, naming us as influential topic leaders, free Subway and Axe gel.  Give us something to believe in.  Show us some professional behavior and methodology that involves accurate statistical measurements.
 
Until then, there is no way that this will ever “Feel Right.”
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

 

 

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Hello Jure, Thank you for inviting me to "Dynamic Tribe" this post.  I was happy and proud to do so! You are quite versed on the well-rounded array of social media.  Your observations are credible, and  you're tool-rific in ways I can only dream to be. For me, Klout was originally something I paid little attention to.  I knew it was out there, but I had other things to think about.  When I got more into blogging and working toward moving the needle, someone came to me to convey that they were happy to connect with someone of a good influence.  They mentioned Klout. So, I looked again, and if what I was doing increased my score, I was happy.  If it stayed the same, no sweat.  Soon, I focused more on this number, and watched what led to a better score.  I did put the Klout badge on my website, and chose to implement it as another set of wings in my collection of kudos in presenting myself to prospective clients and employers. Toward the end of my observations, I wondered if my Twitter tweet frequency was too high, and if I appeared spammy.  Because I certainly was watching enough people game the system, and I know they don't even look at their Twitter account (or facebook or linkedin) -- They're simply automating stuff out.  Their scores were higher than mine. You know I attend Tweetchats to stay current with social media-related topics.  And as a performer, I'm naturally driven toward constant improvement.  When I've been in chats where Klout personnel were present, I've found their approach to be quite sophomoric.    When my score recently dropped 11 points and the other benchmarks changed drastically, I was quite frustrated.  I did observe a few minutes of the #toolschat mentioned by you and mqtodd above.  But I was in a meeting and could only observe those very few moments. Regarding Klout topics - I once wrote an article called, "Holy hashtags, Batman!"  Actually about Twitter & tweeting.  From there, I was influencial in Batman.  That, and two other topics I've had to remove from my list.  Topics I tweet about frequently seem to hardly make a dent. Today, I logged into Klout just before responding, and it shows that I am influential to someone that logs into Facebook about once per week and would be lucky to know that there are other social networks.  They, of course, have not registered for Klout. At this point, I see little credence in Klout, and merely use it as a way to network with those that like exchanging +Ks.  I've taken my badge from my site, and am working toward deleting any words of it there. While I'll remember Klout is there, I'll look toward Kred, and others now popping up, to see what comes. I appreciate your post, and your passion toward quality, Jure. ~Keri

Very well stated article and arguments with regards to Klout's claim of being the "Standard of Influence."  I agree that their new algorithm is jacked up. I have seen some very influential bloggers scores drop 15 to 20 points and other lesser know bloggers jump up the same amount. The system does seem rigged.

Spiffy examination! 

I certainly do not feel that the current vanity measuring systems provide relavent value at this time. None of them measure engagement or interaction which is why spammers get such outrageous scores. My point is that these scores are truly worthless. Thanks for putting this together!   Cheers, Mikel King http://jafdip.com

As CEO/Executive Producer of a Paperless/Wireless Online WebTV & Entertainment Company, I read & listen to a lot of social media news, Blogs, vlogs, online articles via Huffington Post, AOL, Yahoo, New York Times etc... News never stops it's a 24 hours a day business, but I have never read an article that has really made me have a change of heart!  Im personally new to twitter and just started our company De'UnequeTV tweeting this past May just before Internet Week New York!  http://synthesio.com/corporate/2011/06/ Using Twitter has really placed our brand name, business concept, excelled our marketing campaign and presence like no other social media platform.  I can not deny anything you have mentioned in this in-depth Blog about Klout!  I started following Klout while working on obtaining my Master's Degree in Entertainment Business at Full Sail University but didnt persue the idea nor did I tweet but had a change of heart now I have a change of Klout!   Singed   Change of Klout 

At first I could see the adjustment was fairly evenly handled across the board, but the recent article I read about Klout jacking private information of friends/family/childrenwho are not even participants in the competitve Klout arena, it was extremely disturbing:    Whoa Did #Klout Just Violate the Privacy Of Our Kids? su.pr/2dRG6h via @zaibatsu #privacy #sm I don't know how this will all shake out, but Klout has a serious problem — not just as a result of the grousing that is going on, but from a public relations standpoint regarding their harvesting and use of private informaiton.

Hi @Jure, "Everyone has Klout"? Not really. I no longer have a Klout profile because I found a legal way to have them delete my account. I wrote about it here.  Please feel free to share this information with everyone that you might think want to be removed from Klout's database. 

The premise behind Klout has always bothered me, as it seemed more geared to focusing our social media attention on Klout than on measuring anything scientifically.  My True Reach shouldn't go up when more of my Twitter followers join Klout.  What does whether my Twitter followers are on Klout have anything to do with my "influence"? My Klout scores would go up when people friended me ON KLOUT or added me to a list ON KLOUT.  That's just game theory manipulations to get us to change our behavior to make Klout seem more important.  I said last week (even before this score brouhaha) that: Klout is all about making Klout look important in this incestuous party aimed at putting Klout at the center of our social media attention.  These latest changes make this even more apparant. I also don't like the kind of behavior Klout rewards.  My score goes down when I return someone's follow.  Right.  Because the way to be influential is to act like a prick who can't be bothered with the little people.  Sorry, my path to success involves being social and making friends who will support me in my projects.  I can't be social and *not* follow people back, and I shouldn't *have* to change my behavior to show a more realistic view of my influence. My score also goes down when those who *supposedly* influence me go down in score.  Yet there's no way to remove these people from my "influence" list.  How the hell did Klout figure that 10 people who never talk to me or RT my stuff is more important to my score than the hundreds who do RT and reply to me?  And again, this punishes me for befriending newbies on Twitter. Also, how can they claim to be accurate when they don't look at everything at least somewhat equally.  I have a self-hosted WP blog--that gets ignored.  My friend has a Blogspot blog with 800 members and her numbers went up when she disconnected it from Klout.  Seriously? If Klout didn't have so many people fawning over their numbers, I wouldn't care about any of this.  But I'm an aspiring author, and there are publishers out there who think these barely-better-than-pulled-out-of-someone's-butt numbers are a reliable indicator of whether a writer can sell books or not.  So some authors are getting screwed out of book deals because Klout has tricked the publishers.  That is not cool. You're absolutely right that they've set themselves up as some sort of authority, and yet they have no scientific basis for their claim or their numbers.  They are an online game, and a poor one at that.

No matter how "pure" a Twitter metric is, when it becomes popular, everyone will seek to game it to their own benefit.  

Great post, Jure.  Like other commenters, I'm now most influential to my Facebook friends, who are casual users.  It's definitely true that I'm more likely to have engagement on Facebook with each and every post (unlike Twitter where I may get an @ mention or a RT on, at best, half of my posts.)  Guess my friends like my goofy family photos and rantings about what I had for dinner!!!   I've also observed that my Facebook friends, who post a few times a week, at most, and are not on Twitter or any other platform, were least impacted by score drops - and some actually went up a point or two, albeit with relatively low scores overall (20's range.) I considered doing an experiment where I unlinked Facebook, thinking that this platform had a bigger impact on my score drop of 14.4.  But now I'm wondering if  it was, in fact, Twitter that had a bigger impact based on lower engagement overall on that platform relatively speaking.  Inquiring minds want to know!

An interesting post, for what  its worth my Klout score increased recently but does it really matter!! Regards  Mark www.integrated-marketing.co.uk    

Oops typo - "Cheers"!

I'm late here Jure...fantastic post! Thank you for including #TeamFollowBack.  (As far as I know they are not on Tumblr so the idea that Tumblr is a key boost to numbers is suspect; 77 and no Tumblr account.) Btw: my Klout score on one account was higher a year ago by 10 pts (by 30 from what it dropped to yesterday) when I followed everybody back & broadcasted tweets regularly with little to no engagement.   I was simply content curating yet that made me more influential?  (This was before Linked was offered so I only had Twitter & FB attached. )     I'm guessing the funding is what lead to the changes.  What is sad is this business strategy may affect some peoples' livlihoods.  For me, until they provide an opt-in/opt-out, I've requested my accounts deleted from Klout.  Edelman has a nice tool to use to improve.  PeerIndex has a number for clients.  And Kred sounds like a far more accurate well-rounded option. heers!             

Do you guys know about proliphiq (www.proliphiq.com). Proliphiq is profile discovery platform that focuses on discovering the credible people on various topics and ranks them accordingly. It is more relevant and useful than Klout. I got an registered and got an invite to explore the site. The UI is very engaging.

Jure, super article. I like how you analyzed each component of your Klout score and showed the differences. Perhaps Klout when to the Netfix School of Keeping People Happy?

I will give all you an example. As you may know Tumblr now has more daily page views than Twitter. I have worked consistently on Tumblr for 3 months now. Coenting and reblogging etc. Posting myself as well about 20 times a day.  Many of the people that are highly active on Tumblr have seen little drop in their Klout score. However of the people complaining that their Klout score has dropped put much time into their Tumblr presence. Or Instagram? (also a massive and fast growing social network). Instagram and Tumblr are just as important for Klout as Twitter.

As you know I have been a keen student of Klout for sometime and after these changes I now believe that I understand the algorithm pretty much 95%.  As a result of my understanding not a single one of the score changes yesterday has suprised me even a tiny bit. Because I have several twitter and social media accounts I help others run I can see what alterations make the score go up and down. I stick pretty much to what I said in my blog post "9 ways to improve your Klout Score" a few weeks ago.

P.S  I'm on Twitter as BrensView, thanks for this blog. It's clear and TRANSPARENT!

Hi Jure, I've written to klout before and had asked them why they make it so difficult to increase your score when it sits at the same thing for weeks on end and yet you've spent hours on twitter being RT'd, chatting etc etc and explained to them that I have a job, a house and child to take care of, I cannot be on Twitter and Facebook 24/7...  they replied and told me the score is all relative, harder to go from 70 to 75 than it is to go from 10 -20 .. I've always doubted their motives and scoring. It took me months to go from the low 50's to reach 60, then because I stopped loggin into it after another user said he was done with them, I revoked their access to my twitter account and simply logged into clear the K+ klout I was given. My score dropped from 60 to 59 then to 58.  Yesterday before I was aware they'd changed their algorithm, I looked and saw it was on 46. I was so upset, I emailed them and told them klout and its scoring is all a sham. It's not based in truth at all. This morning I checked and was still at 46. Out of sheer curiosity this afternoon, I've checked and it's not reading 10... you tell me if this new algorithm is anymore honest than their other one when a score drops in just a few hours from 46 to 10 and it's not due to the changes from yesterday. Klout is a big fiddle, it's not honest at all. It's all to do with false flattery and if they can peek into more and more of your private lives, it's nothing more than a bought and paid for new type of Big brother. as far as being honest and transparent Klout sucks, I won't be losing any sleep over them at all. Thank goodness I don't need their false scoring and dishonesty to do my jobs or influence my family of friends.

As for the list of "people you influence" I agree it is far from perfect and other places are doing that better.   So I pay it no attention. I am finding fantastic content to read and share as a result of Klout's new content feature. Many of my friends appreciate a +K shout out in topics they hold dear. Those 2 things more than justify Klout as a website. All the rest, the score, the "who influences who" etc is just fun and games to me and not worth really worrying about. They are making changes on the road to doing that better so why worry about it until they do?

@mqtodd Michael yes i wrote the post before #toolschat. I know was not your intention to have Klout discussion during the toolschat. I saw both MEgan and Joe but they were not really interacting with many of us. In fact Megan said she is at the dinner with her mother and any questions should be sent to her email address and Joe as always he ignored many questions. In fact they both came out when some of us were start tweeting them during the chat. Well one Klout need to get right is Transparency. Thank you for your input.

Did you write this before or after #Toolschat yesterday? I thought Joe Fernandez and Megan Berry were very forthright and engaging didn't you?  I did not invite them there they came totally voluntarily. It was not actually my intention to even discuss Klout much on #Toolschat but it kind of got highjacked :) I find them to be good people who are a major force for connection. Please understand too that they are doing something never done before. Their analytics and algorithm will require even more tinkering and adjustment on the road to a better model.

If you count on Klout to tell you whether you influence people, you probably don't have enough influence on them.

I Agree...where is the transparency?  It seems nobody is answering anything at klout.  they just send you to the blog announcement.  Perhaps they can just fix things by adjusting the standard deviation up by 1 unit (assuming that is a standard deviation of 8-10 points).  Nothing needs to be changed after that.

Jure, You said, <i>"In my opinion and the opinion of many, Klout is a game of online manipulation and popularity. There is no indication that Klout measures influence."</i> I joined Klout a while back, but really paid no attention to it until our conversation with Angela Maiers, @angelamaiers, where we also talked about the implications of "Social Search". I think that one's score in Klout only had a little value to begin with and now there is even less. Their algorithm was gameable and now it is even moreso. I think the real value here is not to mistake the tool with the message... Influence matters in the networked world we live in! The tools that measure influence can be manipulated, (If not there wouldn't be so many SEO companies, products and social networking profiles), but TRUE influence comes with the delivery of good content, which adds value and is shared generously. Keep sharing! :-) ~Dave

Thanks for the great article. Klout needs to be transparent with their scoring algorithm. Especially if employers are going to use it as a real measurement standard.  Here's my old OLD vs. NEW  Network: 50 vs 42 Amplification: 90 vs 38  True Reach: 1.2K vs 3K Overall Score Analysis: 67 vs 59

I deactivated and deleted my facebook account over a month ago, and yesterday my Klout score dropped about 8 points... Klout TELLS me it's because of my loss of influence on facebook. But now, regardless of the number of people I interact with on Twitter, the overwhelming majority of the people I influence are facebook users that I'm literally not connected to anymore. Hmmm? I loved Klout because they gave me some really awesome free stuff and made it fun to let my Twitter friends know how much I appreciate them by giving them +K and such... but this is just weird.. and it reeks of facebook's giant "let's control the world" movement and Joe Fernandez isn't saying much about how these new algorithms REALLY work... Interesting. Ultimately, the Klout issue doesn't affect me much because I'm a stay-at-home mom in the hills of Kentucky. I appreciated the free stuff and all... But I have to wonder how this is going to affect people who are relying on Klout scores to vet prospective employees, etc. Will they just not care about Klout anymore? Will those prospective employees get the shaft because of Klout's weird shift or will the people relying on Klout to dictate a person's worth act just say "forget this mess" and move on to more reliable companies to get online influence info on these people?

Jure another fantastic post sir.  I personally joke each time they apply a change to their algorithm to the production database as it seems they slap some code in without proper testing and tuning.  It is a benchmark but not THE benchmark.  A data point does not define who we are or who we engage with each day. Unfortunately for me I took a 8 point bounce which I do not understand and find humorous.  I was happy at my compfy range of 67-70 but overall could care less.  I am sad to say that some of the people I looked up to ended up being outright nasty to me because of a number that I have no control over.  First day I felt sad as a member of the Socialsphere because the "elite" cool kids were beating up on me because of Klout.  How sad! The best Klout I have Jure are my words and actions and I will always tell you I enjoy our discussions online, love reading your work and always look forward to engaging with you on any topic anytime.  Appreciate you sir!

Hi, Jure, well written post! While you make excellent points in questioning Klout's new metrics and "standards", my one question from my post yesterday remains: do people truly feel their influence is measured by a number rather than by the people they are associated with? True influence begins in our own backyard, with our clients and local networks. My score dropped also, by 15 points, and you are correct in pointing out that there really is not one specific standard for measurement yet; Klout has only been out 2 years, so to perfect their rules so early on with things changing so quickly would be, in my opinion, such a high expectation no one metric could hope to achieve. You influence me by your words, by your thoughts, and by your intelligence. I don't look at your score as my deciding factor. Would you please share your thoughts? Please use my gmail account or Twitter - I'm having trouble with my primary email of late. Thank you, can't wait for the conversation!

Jure... thanks so much for a very thought provoking post that clearly outlines many of the issues we all have, or certainly should have regarding Klout. My take is that the true reason Klout is important or needs to be paid attention to at all is that is is simply a place to guage where you stand in realtions to others in a very simplistic format/basis. Also... Klut has done a remarkable job branding themselves and selling through to the corporate/branding world, therefore if they care, we as marketers/influencers need to care. Personally not sure if I really care how Klout ranks me, but it is definitley on the mind of many and the people who work with us or engage us are concerned and are using it as a measure. but also keep in mind that this change has Klout clearly and quite visibly in the media and gaining a huge amout of attention... good thing when marketing yourself to corporate America. That is tremendous for their brand awareness when it may have been slipping and being spoken of less recently. So crazy to make the change... or crazy like a fox ;-)

I'm interested to see what the response is to this. Thanks for challenging the status quo Jure.

You know, in a way I agree with your tweet from meganberry - it sorta feels right. However, I call the recent Klout algorithm change an adjustment in Klout inflation. There were way too many (in my opinion) users with relatively high Klout scores, with the understanding that 100 was the ceiling. I certainly doubt that those in the 70's and 80's and higher are influential, but relative to superstars, pop icons, celebrities, etc? I think most people's Klout scores were bloated to begin with. Mine personally went from 63 to 51. Would I rather it be 63? I guess. Is 51 more appropriate? I think so if you're comparing apples (@justinbieber) to me. Justin's 'klout' is 100 while mine is half of that. I think it's fair to say my SM influence is half (or less) that of the Bieb.

Hi Jure, This new "algo" created too big a change in numbers for too many users.  Yourself down 17 is outlandish.  I saw some down 20.  So I guess the first "algo" was way off?  Oops, sorry about that users we made a slight error the first time around.  I haven't thrown in the towel yet, but they did take two steps back yesterday.  In the last 15 hours I've seen some angry people out there, and I'm still surprised Klout did something so drastic.   You're never going to keep everyone happy, but they weren't even close yesterday.  Let's see how it plays out.  Have a good one.      

Hi Steve, yes if the first was so off Klout Klout Klout !!! Wondering what brands who were participating in the past Perks program thinking about it. If they were so off, how many "off" influencers did got free perks ? Did they went into right hands ? If I would be one of the brands I would question them. Thank you for your comment Steve, have a good one!

Great piece.  I particularlly like the way you speak to the term "STANDARD" and the way the Klout folks toss the term around.  Thanks for digging in an collecting the facts!

DAve thank you for your comment!

Klout is the current standard for measuring engagement -- but at this time, they really don't know enough about the audience for their topics to be accurate or all that interesting...and on social media, you are defined by who's listening. Klout says I am influential about "earthquakes" -- but I doubt I have a single geologist following me.

Well friend of mine is influential about sheep..., and she lives in the city and certainly is not talking about animals at all. I really dont know from where they are pick them up... I think i will next week influential about gold fish :) Thank you for commenting

Congratulations for the post. It's a resume about what a lot of people think. Are all followers influences? No, some or lots of them, depending on cases, are just spammers.

Abel Thank you for your comment!

This is a great article, I've been preaching the same thing all day. The turning point for me was a few weeks ago. My dad had emergency bypass surgery, and I tweeted that we were heading to be by his side. I got hundreds of replies, to which I answered in one blanket tweet. 24 hours later, when he came out of the surgery fine & I tweeted again, I got hundreds of congratulations. Again, I didn't have time to tweet. My Klout score, in that two day period, went up 3 points. If I was a doctor, or worked in the medical field, I could see that being somewhat accurate, but it had nothing to do with my business, or the industry I work in, and I didn't even tweet. Their algorithm is suspect.

Thank you for your comment Rob. YOu just made another great example, of Klout being popularity contest only and nothing to do with influence.

I learnt today that you could lose your clients or not be considered for positions because of low Klout scores. I do not know about, but I find this VERY amusing. There was a time when influence was measured by hard work, communication and valuable customer service. Now, all we focus on is numbers and quantity. If this is what social media is going to be, I think I will turn off my computer and look for another job. lol More seriously, people need to relax and wait for a few days. As Chris said, there are tons of people who do not use Klout and still make money and are considered very influential.  I actually wrote an article on this particular topic: http://www.creativeramblings.com/is-social-media-just-about-numbers-these-days/.

If folk are worrying so much about their Klout score, they maybe don't have enough in thir lives to think about. I think Klout is just laugh. My 13year old daughter has a way bigger Klout score than I do based on having 500 friends on FB (seriously - 500?!?) and just talking bollocks with them. How can she be influential in any meaningful sense?  By all means enjoy the ame, but for goodness sake don't for a moment think it is important. Plenty of people being influential and making money have never even heard of Klout...

Chris, thank you for your comment! I agree with you to some degree but as well we need to take in consideration that many of us are professionals working in Social Media filed and metrics as such are having important role. All what we are asking is for transparency and honesty from Klout.

I don't know anyone whose Klout has gone up. Not one single person. And that bell curve presented by Klout seems....well, frankly fictional. I'm down 13. Most people I know dropped at least ten. If I'm Following over 8000 people and can't find any whose score went up, what is going on? There's a lot of talk about transparency. And there's a lot of talk. But there's no ACTUAL transparency here.

Jure, thank you so much for speaking up & for being such a clear, honest voice, you make a difference & I'm proud to know you!

Jean thank you so much for your comment and support as always! #YOUMATTER a lot to me!

Klout prides inself on being a metric used by major companies, infuencing brands hiring decisions. Ok then, let us know in clear,plain language exactly what info you are measuring. Rumors are flying everywhere, many brands have limited social media understanding & they are just as confused as we are. It appears very clear to me that if you link your Twitter, Facebook or any other social media accoint to your Klout that you'd best be prepared to work thoe accounts like they were your day job or watch your scores plumet. Indeed, I've noticed that going away to an event, taking a weekend off to be with family results in a score drop. I cannot enage deeply in any sort of real way across 12 platforms on a daily basis, my niche is primarily tech & the time I spend on social media already negatively impacts the hands on work & techical reading I need to do to remain current & revelvant. Sorry Klout but I will continue to speak to those people who speak to me,offering tech support & help whenever I can, I will tweet & Facebook only when I have something worthwhile to say & wll not regurgitate inane bullshit just to prop up a score of any sort. In short I'll continue to use social media to .. actually.. be social.  

I agree with you Jure and am glad you have the courage to post your viewpoint. In a narrower market, it can be more difficult to be the one saying "the Emperor has no clothes" for at the very least, one appears ungracious. As for influence - if I can't help my neighbour and community, and get people to take an action other than a retweet or a like, just how much influence do I really have? Thankfully, regardless of whether my Klout score goes up or down, I have successfully built significant communities via social media, and transitioned those offline to meetups, tweetups, fundraisers, community events and more! And, regardless of Klout score or other measurement, I will continue to engage everyone in the building on these new communities. The value of an individual is priceless - we ALL have worth and none should be ignored due to some arbitrary "tool"!

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  2. [...] to look into the Klout algorithm too much. Jure Klepic (@JKCallas), a great friend took a much more in-depth look. Jure’s argument centers around the accuracy of the [...]

  3. [...] Klout, visit these great articles:A Klout Upside the Head by Bob LeDrew on Danny Brown’s blogIs Klout on the Way Out?  by @jkcallas50 Kloutless Ways To Get Value From Twitter#dd_ajax_float{background:none repeat [...]

  4. [...] as many Klout “Online Success Scores” dropped significantly overnight? It means they’re crazy to make the change…or… are they crazy like a [...]

  5. [...] Is Klout on the Way Out?  - Jure Klepic [...]

  6. [...] as many Klout “Online Success Scores” dropped significantly overnight?  It means they’re crazy to make the change…or… are they crazy like a [...]

  7. [...] Is Klout On The Way Out? | Social Media, Pointedly This morning, Klout launched a new algorithm, which has affected the scoring of Social Media users “Online Success Scores.”… Source: jureklepic.com [...]

  8. [...] at knowing and measuring who is Influential  online, offline etc.   In my previous post Is Klout On The Way Out? I discussed my concerns of how Klout calls themselves the “Standard” for Influence. [...]

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